SEC vs Big Ten Football
For an SEC vs Big Ten 2011 - 2012 Bowl update, go to SEC vs Big Ten Debate.
Wow, the SEC made a statement vs the Big Ten on New Years Day 2011. The SEC goes 3-0 vs the Big Ten with Alabama, Miss. State and Florida mostly dominating Mich. State, Michigan and Penn State. The SEC teams outscored their Big Ten opponents 138 - 45. [Note, the Big Ten lost two other games as well, all on 1-1-11. This is the worst day a conference has had in college football history.] Wow, there's just nothing to debate currently about the SEC vs Big Ten Football Rivalry. The SEC simply dominates on the field!
In 2010 - 2011, the SEC went 5-4 (Arkansas loss on Sugar Bowl to OSU vacated) in bowl games. In 2009 - 2010, the SEC went 6-4 in bowl games. In 2008 - 2009, the SEC ended up 6-2; 7-2 in 2007 - 2008. That 24-12 bowl record in the past four years is the best record of all the conferences and the most bowl wins ever by one conference over four years.
Oh, and the SEC won the National Championships each of those years, as well as the prior year (2006).
So, how'd the Big Ten do? This past year 2010-2011 they went 2-5; last year they went 4-3. In 2008 they were 1-6. In 2007 they were 3-5. So, a cumulative record of 10-19 over the past four years. Note that Ohio State lost both the '06 and '07 Championship Games to Florida and LSU.
And that pretty much sums things up as far as the SEC vs Big Ten rivalry. It was pretty even until the last three years. The SEC is way ahead now. Last season (2010 - 2011) the SEC was 3-0 vs the Big Ten in Bowl Games and 4-1 in head-to-head games over the entire season.
Check out what some of our visitors say (especially the comments below the submission) here.
Read about the LSU vs Ohio State game; what it means for the Big Ten vs SEC Football Debate, the future of the BCS and lots more at BCS Unfair to SEC; College Football Playoff; and, BCS Controversy.
LSU's victory over Ohio State (following Florida's 2006 National Championship win over OSU) was also pivotal in the SEC vs Big Ten Football Debate.
Over the past decade or so, the SEC has had the upper hand when you look at the big picture. You can find lots of support for this at SEC Football.
But, until LSU's 2007 National Championship victory, Big Ten fans had been able to hang their hat on the argument that the Big Ten led the SEC in head to head match ups over the past five years.
You'll see that point made often by Big Ten fans in the comments below. [The other most often cited Big Ten comment is about the unfairness of playing bowl games in the South...]
Below discussion was from after the 2007 season.
Anyway, there were no SEC - Big Ten match ups this year during the regular season. Coming into the Bowl season, over the past five years, the Big Ten had an 8-7 lead over the SEC (after going 2-1 against the SEC in the 2006-2007 bowls).
[Thanks to a reader comment below for letting us know that SEC teams are 33-20 vs the Big Ten in bowl games 1930 - 2007.]
Once again, we had 3 SEC vs Big Ten bowl match-ups. They were:
- LSU vs Ohio State -- BCS Championship Game
- Tennessee vs Wisconsin -- Outback Bowl
- Florida vs Michigan -- Capital One Bowl
Of course, the SEC took 2 of 3 (LSU and Tennessee) to move into a 9-9 tie with the Big Ten over the past 5 years. But, more significantly, the SEC Champ won its second straight head to head match-up with the Big Ten Champ in the games that mattered most -- the BCS NC games.
And, when you look at the bigger picture, the SEC is even more impressive.
Over the past two bowl seasons; the SEC is a cumulative 13-5; the Big Ten 5-10. And, interestingly, the Big Ten is 3-3 vs the SEC and 2-7 versus everyone else! Not sure what to make of that stat.?
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It's a shame the SEC and Big Ten don't play more football games against each other. Two great conferences, with great football traditions and history. It would make for some great games. But, many of the schools have never played each other. More often then not, when they do play, it's in a post-season bowl.
The Big Ten was initially formed in 1896. The last member to join was Penn State, which joined the conference in 1990. The addition of Penn State meant that the conference actually has 11 members, though it is still called the "Big Ten."
Update: actually Nebraska joined the Big Ten in 2011, so the conference now has 12 teams, though it still calls itself "The Big Ten."
The Big Ten is composed of the:
- Ohio State Buckeyes
- Michigan Wolverines
- Wisconsin Badgers
- Purdue Boilermakers
- Minnesota Gophers
- Indiana Hoosiers
- Northwestern Wildcats
- Iowa Hawkeyes
- Illinois Fighting Illini
- Michigan State Spartans
- Penn State Nittany Lions
- Nebraska Cornhuskers
In 2011, the Big Ten will add Nebraska and gain it's 12th member. It will also divide into two divisions and add a Big Ten Championship Game. You can read an opinion here about how arguably this will detract from "The Game:" Michigan - Ohio State Rivalry Damaged by Big Ten Move to Two Divisions.
Over the years, there is little doubt that biggest rivalry between college football conferences has been between the Big Ten and the SEC. It probably has something to do with the fact that the two conferences probably embody America's North vs South rivalry more than any others. The SEC is the only Division I college football conference made up entirely of colleges from States that were part of the Confederacy (Kentucky being the sole, debatable, exception). The members of the Big Ten come from unquestionably Northern States.
Maybe that has something to do with it. The other thing is that the two conferences are recognized by most college football observers as the two, overall, best college football conferences. Hence, the natural rivalry.
The Florida - Ohio State match-up in the 2006 National Championship game further stoked interest in how the two conferences compare.
Further, the selection by the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) of Florida Gators over Michigan to face Ohio State for the National Championship was very controversial at the time. Why? I don't know. See The BCS Got it Right.
Then this year we had more BCS controversy and another SEC vs Big Ten match up in College Football's National Championship Game.
So, the rivalry just continues to build.
Overall, we rank the Big Ten as the #3 NCAA Division I college football conference - behind only the SEC and Big 12. The Big Ten has great football tradition and their top programs are among the best in the country (i.e. Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State).
But, the second and third tier Big Ten schools just don't match up to the SEC. At least that's our take here at SEC Sports Fan.
In any event, the bottom line is, of course, the bottom line record. You will find it is close, but fortunately, for SEC fans - dispositive. So, here is the all-time, head-to-head, Big Ten vs SEC football record (current through the 2007 season).
SEC vs Big Ten Head-to-Head Football Record
- Through 2011, the SEC leads the Big Ten with a 73-50-2 all-time record.
- The SEC has a .592 winning percentage versus the Big Ten.
Obviously, the two conferences are both great football conferences and pretty close over-all. That's why the SEC vs Big Ten debate is so much fun.
If you'd like to see how the SEC and Big Ten compare in bowl wins, go to Top College Football Bowl Conference. And, if you want more "inside football" info about SEC vs Big Ten football stats, check this out: Big Ten vs. SEC All-Time Statistics and You Need to Get Your Football History Facts Straight (as well as the comments on these pages).
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Information Source and Details of Calculation
Last December, a reader of www.secsportsfan.com e-mailed me and asked if I knew the all-time record of SEC vs Big Ten football.
I
looked through my files and couldn't find the answer. Then I did a
"Google" search and still couldn't immediately find the answer.
Eventually, another reader referred me to Sports Link Network. So, that's where the above information came from.
Of course the devil is in the details. And, the results are only as good as the data that is fed into the calculator.
There
are issues of when do you start counting records when one school joins a
conference after the others. For instance, Penn State recently joined
the Big Ten.
And what if the school once had a very small program
that did not resemble its current program? Would you count the wins and
losses from back to when it might have only been a club sport? Or, only
from when it became a major college football competitor.
The
above SEC vs Big Ten football stats are based on historical conference
affiliation. This seems the most reasonable criteria. So, it only counts
the head-to-head match-ups between SEC schools and Big Ten schools --
when they were in the conference. So, for instance, it would not count
Arkansas before they joined the SEC or Penn State before they joined the
Big Ten (or Nebraska). It would count former members of the conferences
-- but only games they played while a member of the conference.
The
other way to do it is to look at all-time stats that don't consider
previous conference affiliation. In other words, stats that would
include all games between current SEC schools and current Big Ten
schools -- even including games prior to formation of the SEC in 1932.
It would also include games between (for instance) Arkansas and current
Big Ten schools prior to Arkansas joining the SEC (or Penn State prior
to the Nittany Lions joining the Big Ten).
If you do that, you
will find that, including all current Big Ten schools (except Nebraska,
we don't have those numbers yet...) and all current SEC schools,
all-time head to head -- due to the poor (vs the SEC) Big Ten season
last year the SEC now holds an extremely narrow 95-93-6 advantage vs.
the Big Ten. See the bottom of SEC vs Everyone (current through Dec
2010).
You'll see some of the conflicting numbers in some of the
comments submitted below. I do think it is fair to say that since
formation of the SEC in 1932, the SEC has a slight edge. If you go back
before that, the Big Ten has a slight edge.
And here are the Big Ten School Records All-Time vs Everyone.
Another treasure trove of college football statistics can be found at College Football Data Warehouse.
You can find current conference comparison info at 2010 conference comparison analysis.
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I know all too well sec and big ten being a buckeye fan. And also about all the controversy with the BCS. To me it is a simple fix. There are 6 conferences …
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This redneck website is horrible. They can even spell Michigan Wolverines correctly! Scroll up to see the "Michigan Wolvereens"
The Big Ten basically …
Michigan Man Not rated yet
What is Meeeechigans record vs. the SEC?
Scholarships allowed ? Not rated yet
How many football scholarships are given or allowed by the following confrences: SEC, BIG12, PAC10, BIG11, BIG East and the ACC?
Does the NCAA reqire …
location, location, location Not rated yet
Curious if where games are played is taken into consideration. It seems that traditionally, Big Ten schools (and others) play SEC schools in the south. …
Big Ten Has Best History and is Top Overall Conference Not rated yet
Okay, is there any school in the sec that offers anything other than an associates degree, okay maybe vandy but we see how good they are.
Look at schools …
Bigotry Was Reason SEC Refused Games Against Big Ten Not rated yet
Really, the Big Ten's rival conference is the PAC-10. The SEC is a recent thing. Ohio State and Michigan constantly tried to get games with the SEC, …
I'll Hand it to the SEC, but Big Ten Fans are Better Not rated yet
I'm not going to lie about this. The SEC is a tough conference full of great teams and I KNOW they are the best conference out there right now.
But they …
Big Ten Beats SEC in Every Stat Not rated yet
To whomever wrote the information on this site.
Your own stats on this site don't even match each other when you repeat them twice or more.
Also …
Northern SEC Fan Not rated yet
I grew up in northern Indiana. I spent ten years in the south and I realized why the SEC is so supperior as a conference. Here are the four main reasons: …
Buckeye Fan in the South Not rated yet
Good Article. SEC is certainly deeper right now, and actually has some of my favorite coaches. The tough schedule has helped out the SEC teams in the …
Big Games only away from Big Ten Country Not rated yet
I am a Big Ten supporter. I went to a Big Ten school for college, I now go to a Big Ten school for my phd. I have watched Big Ten football and college …
No Way Big Ten Can Stand Up To SEC Schedule Not rated yet
There is no way the big-10, pac-10 ??? can stand playing week after week against an SEC schedule come on you got Ohio, Michigan thats it then USC thats …
Notre Lame not in Big 10.... Not rated yet
Notre Lame is not a Big 10 team. Penn State has played Alabama many times in the past and has an upcoming home and home with them.
I'd be curious what …
SEC is dominant because of COACHING! Not rated yet
I'm a HUGE fan of the SEC & I hear people say all the time that the SEC just has better athletes. I disagree, I think it's better coaching. Lets look at …
Too Much Mouthing Not rated yet
The problem is that everybody wants to mouth about something that is hard to prove.
Things to consider:
1. What is the ratio of home games to road …
Big Ten Fan Agrees -- SEC is usually better Not rated yet
The SEC is usually better. I can't even comprehend why the Buckeyes are 0-9 in bowls against the SEC. Some of it is just who you happen to play and when. …
This is cool! Not rated yet
I love college football. This is great, a place where we can go back and forth with the banter and show the love of our teams and conferences. I'm a …
SEC is Faster and Bottom Tier Teams Better Not rated yet
I live in Pennsylvania and have been a PSU fan my enitre life and vividly remeber the days when Penn state would beat up on eastern schools like WV, Rutgers, …
Thanks for the clarification on how come about the all time records. Not rated yet
Hey secfan I'm a big Georgia & Michigan fan, I know it's weird call me confused. I submitted a question months ago about how you came up with your numbers, …
Sun Belt Conference was PERFECT in the Bowl Games Not rated yet
For the record, Florida Atlantic(Sun Belt Conf.) won the New Orleans Bowl 44-27 over Memphis. That means that the Sun Belt Conference was perfect in their …
Big Ten vs SEC: Very very close Not rated yet
From what I saw on the television and what I understand, since the BCS started, the Big Ten has beaten the SEC in bowl games by 14 to 13. If that does …
SEC vs Big Ten Rivalry Not rated yet
While I will admit that the SEC is stronger top to bottom, the top few teams, year in and year out, have always been very evenly matched(although not so …
Pac-10 is Equal to SEC and Big Ten Not rated yet
The Big 10 and the SEC are very close. Please remember that many of these bowl games are virtual home games for the SEC team.
With that said, remember …
OSU - LSU Let's get it on! Not rated yet
Every bowl season you have uneven matchups in conference standings. One example this year was; #2 from Big Ten vs #1 Pac Ten (on #1's home field) #3 Michigan …
SEC is overranked Not rated yet
I believe that the SEC is a close second to the big ten. I know that you all are saying we won a million bowl games, but the truth of the matter is that …
Big 10 Went 8-0 in Bowl Games Not rated yet
The Big 10 went 8-0 in bowl games about 5-6 years ago.
Even if SEC Bowl Record 7-2 -- Left something out... Not rated yet
"If LSU wins, it will also be the 7th bowl victory for the SEC this year. I don't believe any conference has ever won that many bowl games in one season …
South Carolina Gamecocks vs Ohio State Buckeyes Not rated yet
The SEC has been very rude to the ohio state buckeyes in bowl games over the years especially since the year 2000. South Carolina helped the buckeyes launch …
YPSI Style Not rated yet
OSU will win by at least 10 and if the SEC is so much better than start winning because obviously as you have stated here in your own column the Big 10 …
Football forever Not rated yet
How many times has the SEC played a Big Ten team in a bowl game North of the Mason Dixon Line. Is it fair for the number one rated team to have to play …
SEC home field advantages in bowl games Not rated yet
As a Big Ten fan, the one thing that really annoys me listening to commentators compare the conferences is that they don't take into account, year after …
Wonderful and Informative Not rated yet
wonderful and informative. it appears that the big ten and it's illustrious history started strong and may have slipped a bit. as long as these two conferences …
Big Ten = Mediocre teams??? Not rated yet
I just want to comment about your above mentioned mediocracy of the "rest" of the big ten teams. Besides LSU, Florida, and Alabama, give me another SEC …
It's Good the SEC and Big Ten Don't Play More in Regular Season Not rated yet
In reality. Both conferences should be happy that they don't play each other in the regular season. If that were the case then you would probably see more …
Non-bias facts, the true sec vs big 10 results! Not rated yet
It's cool that your an sec fan, but you must show the honest stats. Big ten leads sec: 94-87-7. here's your link: http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/vs_co …
SEC needs to come north to play more than they do now Not rated yet
Even with the Big Ten teams usually having to come south for bowl games, the Big 10 has the better head to head bowl record. I think it's 91 to 86 and …
You'd think the "best football conference" would have a showing here... Not rated yet
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Big Ten Fan Not rated yet
Your site is interesting. I would agree that the Big Ten SEC rivalry is now the biggest in college football regardless of our historical affiliation …
SEC vs Big Ten comparison on Comparati.com Not rated yet
I'm one of those people who actually thought that Ohio State would roll through Florida last year. I'm also one of those people who was absolutely thrilled …
Just the Facts Not rated yet
Capital One and Outback Bowls
(Played in Florida every year)
· Capital One
o Big Ten has won last 3
o Big Ten – 6 and 4 last 9 years
· Capital …
Stats: Both Big Ten and SEC are great Not rated yet
The Big Ten was 2-1 vs. the SEC in this past season's bowl games.
The Big Ten is 8-6 vs. the SEC in bowl games over the last five years
The Big …
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